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Dear Editor,

In any crime, the evidence is ALWAYS saved, except on 9/11.

The removal of the steel debris, which should have been treated as forensic evidence at the scene of a crime, was a criminal act. This act has been inexplicably ignored by the media and 9/11 Commission and is (further) proof of a massive cover-up.

I would like to suggest that you interview David Griffin of D.H.Griffin in Greensboro and get his perspective on this issue.

D. H. Griffin Wrecking Company, Inc. worked at the WTC site for a year, according to a recent article in the News & Record.

"Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist fire?  Did they throw away the gas can used at the Happy Land social club fire? ... That's what they're doing at the World Trade Center. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately." (Joe Calderone, New York Daily News)  Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace--they installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage. (WTC Steel Removal, wtc7.net) Full story...

Thank you.
Arden Kirkman
Greensboro, NC

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Kevin,

Excellent work. I thought you might be interested in some next step suggestions I've recently made to the Scholars For Truth http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ They are as follows.

1. We need to focus on the first step.

Actually proving what happened on 9/11 is not important at this time. Achieving critical awareness of the need for truth is the first major step needed, and this is just a matter of establishing that the official conspiracy theory is false, and that this false story is being used to redefine all of our futures.

Establishment of the official story as false is well underway, but there is a lot that can still be done. Creating a list like Griffin’s “571 Page Lie” for the NIST report would be a great next step. I’d be happy to collaborate on this if anyone is interested.

Showing how the official false story affects us all is about describing “sensitive dependence on initial conditions”. That is, if a butterfly flapping its wings in Japan can cause a tornado over Texas, imagine what can happen when the world’s largest economic and military power begins to base all their decisions on deception. The crimes of 9/11 are a bifurcation point for the complex system called human society, and our perception of what happened represents our initial conditions going forward. We can track how our futures have been redefined through our investments in the official story.

2. We need to better establish and communicate the details of society’s common investments in the official conspiracy theory.

The investment in the false story of 9/11 is immense. All the power of the current US government is dependent on this story and they have done some abominable things with that power. All public services have been affected, whether by budget cuts related directly to budget increases for military spending, or through political decisions to re-prioritize in favor of “homeland security” and defense. International relations have experienced shock and awe, and other nations are now going along with the fraud out of greed or necessity. Public policy and public perception at every level has been fundamentally changed. Obviously the personal sacrifices made by the rapidly growing number of “9/11 families” must be nearly unbearable.

Additionally, the timing of these investments is critical. It’s no coincidence that we’re facing 9/11 lies at an historic junction between crises in three major areas of social dependence - environmental, economic and resource supply. If we act now to work together and restructure our priorities, we may yet be able to avoid actual global collapse, and future investments made might benefit everyone, not just the greedy few.

But if we don’t act now, the 9/11 wars will escalate. We can see this in comments from federal officials and major media, as they drum up fears of a nuclear powered Iran. The fact that Iran just happens to be the number one source of proven reserves for oil and natural gas (in combination) continues to be conveniently ignored. (A)

Ultimately, our investment in the false official story should be compared against a more positive path that we might have taken if the truth had come out right from the start. Unfortunately, the cost difference would probably be stated in large numbers of human lives.

3. We need to understand root causes.

What may not be obvious to some of us is that getting the truth out could actually make things worse. That is, if we take the path of easy answers, and treat the lies of 9/11 as simply the acts of those we call “evildoers”, then we’ll miss the chance to make real change. That is, we won’t see how similar lies have been behind almost all social crises of the past and present, and more importantly we won’t see how lies like these have always been used to control us. In order to avoid a potentially greater catastrophe than we currently face (if that is imaginable), perhaps one day with a larger global population that is even more dependent on delicate supply systems, we need to learn how and why we lie to ourselves. In doing so, we may be able to prevent the greedy few from using our weakness against us as they’ve done with the crimes of 9/11.

Reference
A. CIA World Fact Book
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2178rank.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2179rank.html

With 190 independent countries in the world today, what are the odds that those countries at the top of these lists are either already controlled by Western interests or just happen to be “evildoers”?

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I'm so glad I finally found your organization! I'd like to join. I'll be sending a donation and accepting one of your DVDs of Griffin's talk.  

I just read your "Madman" piece and liked it a lot, but I'd like to make a few quick comments. I think that you are missing the boat on a couple of things.

I think that understanding and accepting paradox, and the cognitive dissonance that comes with it, is a key element of wisdom. My favorite example is a physical reality, one that can not be disputed like any kind of testimony or other evidence. Light is both a particle and a wave. If you test for a wave, you get a wave. If you test for a particle, you get a particle. It is not either / or; it is both. Someone, Not in our Name I think, recently sent me a good quote from Neils Bohr (sp?), the scientist: "The opposite of a true statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound scientific truth could be another profound scientific truth."

Your example of 1) The U.S. government couldn't possibly do that, and 2) They did, doesn't quite fit with paradox. It is a false statement followed by a true statement. Once people except #2 they will have to disregard #1. It is an either / or situation. Cognitive dissonance is a factor for sure, as I believe it often is in all important learning, but it can be resolved by accepting the facts and doesn't have to be lived with by accepting the facts, which is sometimes the case, as in my light example. And, living with Cognitive dissonance does not have to turn one into a quivering mass of jello.

Clear as mud? Really liked the piece and have resolved to see the movie, amazing I haven't yet, just wanted to put my two cents in.

Please put me on your email list if you have one.

Peace, Love & Truth,
Mike

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Kevin,
 
Thank you. I wish more people in the NSA and FBI agreed with you.
 
The MUJCA rep offer is interesting on a number of levels. What would the job entail? Since I am so uncredentialed I'm currently making $6.25 an hour takehome as a parttime computer tech, with no benefits and a one day grace period if no machines come in. Three cheers for the Bush economic recovery.  I'd be willing to increasingly live on credit cards if my overall satisfaction was greater, but I also have an aged four-legged friend at home who needs a lot of care, so frequent and extended travel would nix the deal.
 
And not that it would bother me, but mightn't people be puzzled by a MUJCA rep who isn't clearly a Muslim, Jew or Christian? Would a sharp tongue alone suffice? I wouldn't want to be a detriment to the organization.
 
In any event, thank you for the offer, also.
 
May we live to see justice in the world.
 
Irv

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Reactions to review of Neo-Conned and Luttwak's Coup d'Etat: A User's Manual

Kevin,

Your piece on Luttwak is fantastic. Thanks.

Alex.

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Wow Kev...you are on it brother! Thanks, Glenn Davis

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Kevin:  Good job.  I like your balance.  And including the "Coup d'Etat..." is perfect.  Have sent it out to a long list.

Thanks,
Judith Sharpe, NeoConned editorial team

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for more on Perkins and "free markets" see:

<www.twf.org/News/Y2004/0228-Impose.html>

Enver

--
The Wisdom Fund
www.twf.org

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Hi everyone at mujca,


After lookong at your site, i would like to let you know, that i make rap music, carrying the same message that you are bringing. I therefore would be honered if you listen to my music, which can be done at : www.loveonelove.com

Please dont hesitate to give me some feedback...

Best Regards
Abdollah aka lion and sun

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"how come jews christian and mumineen,  belive in the same God but wont give in,  they kill each other,  or the separate  they where told to love,  but still some hate"

Really enjoy seeing that there is some people who care about joining together the worlds population, and making plans for everlasting peace. I truely wish you the best, and may the mighty lord grant you sucsess in our efforts. Dear Kevin If you have any other trouble listening to my music let me know. Then i'll try to send you guys a cd, or if you have and msn account, then i could send you the files online.

Best regards
Abdollah aka lion and sun

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Kevin,
 
Looking forward to buying your book I bought the 87th copy of Nafeez's book The War on Freedom when it was still being circulated by e-mail.
 
Being a poet/playwright now writing screenplays I'm very interested in your literary/spiritual approach to current world events.
 
best wishes
and much thanks,
 
wunjo

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Hello Kevin:

I try to read and act on your articles as much as possible. The recent Counter Coup article was the first that I have noted that has presented thoughts on strategies. It brought to mind some ideas which I thought should be shared.  Getting the word out that there is much evidence that requires an independent investigation around 911 is more feasible than "this administration has made a coup detat" (even if it is true). In this there is the need at every turn to have a short list of that evidence at hand and several of the sources responsible for it or links to such.

Getting the matter into the media might initially best be accomplished by focussing on local/state issues.  State representatives are responsible for allocating federal funds.  Thereby they should be held accountable to research matters that greatly have affected federal funding to states. If those people running for state offices were asked publically if they were aware of the evidence pointing to the need of independent investigation of 911 and would they support that investigation, then perhaps this kind of media would spiral outward.

There may shortly be a time whereby truth activism cannot rely on the internet. Already there are indicators noting attempts by corporations to put controls over the internet. Other means to communicate, small radio stations, short wave...? need to be begun to be put into place. One cannot assume internet means will always be available.

Police and para military forces are already being trained and programmed to handle large scale dissent.  This can be seen from not only what has been happening in Iraq to what has happened at WTO dissent rallies, not to mention what is being attempted with the patriot act. Again, perhaps local officials can be contacted regarding their stand on finding 911 truth, and freedom of assembly etc.

Perhaps certain media personalities are not willing to hear what is being said by MUJCA etc. BUT they may have FRIENDS that are at least willing to listen. I once read that Bobby Kennedy was very much opposed to the civil rights movement. Civil rights leaders approached a Bishop that was a close friend of Bobby.  Not long afterward a talk between the two ensued whereby Kennedy radically reversed his position, and publically. It is said that we are only seven people away from virtually anyone. Maybe there are certain individuals who may be good at this tact.

I personally will attempt some of this myself. I am now sending out inquires regarding who might host my art presentation "Rethinking Christianity, Leadership, and the World in the 21st Century" (I think I shared the images with you) and I note the need for investigating 911.

Best to you, Jim F.

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Dear Coordinators for MUJCA-NET,

I'm a guy in Utah who has greatly appreciated your hosting of Dr. David Ray Griffin and getting him on C-SPAN.

You have pulled off something quite remarkable with this.

In Utah, on Feb. 1, BYU Physics Professor Dr. Steven E. Jones will be giving a lecture at Utah Valley State College. My petition and question for you would be about C-SPAN. Any suggestions on how to get Dr. Jones presentation put onto C-SPAN as you got Dr. Griffin's lecture on?

I'd love to hear any suggestions and help on this. As it now stands, Dr. Griffin and Dr. Jones have been in communication and are peers in exposing the 911 fraud.

Thanks,

Shaun Knapp
Provo, Utah

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On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Khidria wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Glad to hear you're organizing the Dr. Steven Jones event!

You can contact C-Span directly--call them and ask to talk to Nick Ravel, who was the contact person for the UW DRG talk. Unfortunately I don't have his email or phone available here--just check the website, call the info number, and track him down.

I would recommend doing as much publicity as you possibly can, and make it look as professional as possible. (I did massive publicity for the DRG event, which is how C-Span found out about it and contacted me.) Announce it on indymedia outlets around the country and in your area. Send multiple press releases to all of the media outlets in your area--one now, one a week before, and one a few days before the event. Call up local talk radio as often as possible and find a way to mention the event by relating it to whatever the topic is. If you have deception dollars, you can print up mailing labels advertising the event, stick them on the deception dollars, and distribute them at appropriate venues. (I carry deception dollars everywhere, and slip them in the driver's-side door crack in parked cars with appropriate bumperstickers.) Also hand them out at antiwar rallies, etc.   Do a lot of postering on campuses if possible. Dub yourself a MUJCA representative (take a quick look at http://mujca.com to see what you're getting into) and call up all the temples, churches, etc. I would imagine that Dr. Jones being a member of the Church of LDS would open up quite a few Mormons to taking this issue seriously. Check out his wonderful statement of endorsement at http://mujca.com

Finally, whatever happens with C-Span, make sure that the talk gets recorded on video by videographers who know what they're doing, and I would recommend having them immediately give the footage to Ken Jenkins and Hummux who are doing great work with 9/11 video. I turned over my DRG footage to them immediately and that's how we got our DVD done quickly. 

Kevin

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Kevin,

You're a superb resource on this.  I appreciate this so very, very much.  Thank you.  I have a lot of work cut out for me for the next couple of weeks.  I'll get all that I can involved to help.

Thanks so much,

Shaun Knapp
Provo, Utah

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Paul Zarembka writes to raise the issue of a possible academic conference on 9/11 revisionism next September 11th...stay tuned to MUJCA for details.

RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY, Paul Zarembka, editor, Elsevier Science
THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001 linked from: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PZarembka

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Hi Kevin,

I thank you for your recent article on the psychological techniques that the architects of 9-11 used to sell the Big Lie.  Your article makes the essential nature of the operation wonderfully clear.  (I love the parallels to the tricks
used by used car salespeople)

That aspect of the subject of 9-11 (the psychological dimension) is one that I think has received much too little attention, and I find your piece an important contribution.  I will build some links to it from my sites.

Thanks,

Jim Hoffman

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Sander Hicks, the next Governor of New York (insha'allah) writes:

Friends-

My pal Kevin in Madison, WI, of M.U.J.C.A. is to be commended, Dr. Steven Jones joined his group!

I will pass Dr. Jones' recent email to me/us on next.

S

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Irv Schrago writes

I'd like to suggest a topic for one of the "honest debates" President Bush has condoned.

I'd like to explore the hypothesis that he suffered a schizophrenic episode while in the grade school on 9/11, and that the possibility of him having another one during testimony before the 9/11 Commission was why he would testify only if not under oath and with Vice President Cheney present to protect and stabilize him. This is consistent with his predilection for speaking only in front of supportive audiences.

Further, that such episodes are related to the way he was raised, most particularly by a totally manipulative mother who intentionally used unavailability and disapproval to warp a child into a scheming psychopath. The
primary skill such rearing taught was wooing, which combined with other manipulations has gained him multiple elections.

Mr. President, she will never love you no matter what you do. She seeks only the power you provide her. Your various campaigns and governings are near-perfect echoes of these traits, with you taking the role of your mother and the American people that of her victim.

I suggest that if you "honestly" want to restore honor and dignity to the office and the country, you will volunteer to endure twice what President Clinton endured at the hands of your associates during his tenure. That is, double what would most accurately be called a neo-conservative gang rape in an immensely public arena, with the specific aims of degradation and humiliation.

Since I have only a slightly higher opinion of most congressmen and "dignitaries" than I have of you, whom I consider a liar, coward and traitor, I volunteer to do all the questioning myself. It should be no trouble at all for
you to defend yourself, as I am an almost totally uncredentialed bumpkin with little to show for my life but failure. Nevertheless, I challenge you to a one-on-one contest between the ultimate alpha and a generically omega male.

Although it may seem that you would have everything to lose and nothing to gain, I believe you will accept, despite the advice of your sycophants and guiding hypocrites, because it will irresistibly attract your schizophrenic traits of compulsive sadism and vain confidence in your ability to "win me over" with your
repulsively smarmy charm.

Let's do it soon, before you engineer another foreign war or enable another "unifying" terrorist attack on American soil, both of which would "accidentally" spike the profits of big oil companies and swing mass hysteria in favor of
"Rape-ublican" candidates in the 2006 elections.

Irv Shrago
315 3rd Ave E
Oskaloosa, IA 52577
641-673-5209

Irv,
This is very good--will post it in the soon to be upgraded Reader Feedback and Comments.  By the way--would you like to be the MUJCA rep for Iowa? And/or attend the upcoming 9/11 conference in Chicago in late April/early May?
K

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From Thomas Potter, suggesting contacting religious groups near US military installations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Army_installations

By using this list, for example, pick Redstone Arsenal.

From the information supplied you find the location, Huntsville, Alabama.

Search the location for churches here:

http://www.thechurchfinder.com/home.asp

From this website you can find churches with websites

or email addresses. TP

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The site is going from strength to strength, the Planetization alliance should help bring in New Age folk alright!
Just read the extracts from your book, but can't find the Apocalypse review of the Rushkoff book on carsalemen! which I found fascinating and want to refer to but can't remember how I came across it the first time!
can you send me the URL?
 
cheers,
Keith Mothersson
 
The 3c911 stuff is very important, just what we need even though some of the 911Truth stuff makes too many compromises to the supposed truth of the hijackers story IMO.
 
I think the PHYSICS developments are the most secure factual launchpad for the Countercoup movement: we shouldn't hide behind 'Need an Investigation' to pretend we don't know what we now do know - that the great mass of the 9-11 murders were inside jobs.
 
You may like to look at an article I posted on the UK nineeleven group site here http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=753
on the Collapse of the Triple Towers - PHYSICS TRUMPS SOCIOLOGY
introduction here:
"....So the first part of this posting is me giving him [my nephew] the key URLs with the Physics of the WTC demolitions;

Towards the middle of this posting I discuss ways that people manage to shield themselves from the truth and/or full implications of the explosive demolition of the Triple Towers.

And at the end of this posting I shift to mostly talking with 9/11 movement people (or website visitors) and I list a series of additional reasons why the decisive clinching and increasing emergence of the physical arguments about the Triple towers is such amazingly encouraging news . "


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I just want to thank you for your website. I am a Quaker and retired newspaper librarian. I am working hard to get the true facts about 9/11 to activist friends.
Bob IveyRobert Dorsey Ivey, Jr.

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I have purchased (2) DVD's "Painful Deceptions" and have been trying to have as many people view it as I do believe one of the views, that being, this administration did NOTHING to prevent the event.
I was wondering why you do not request the C-Span re-run this program considering the climate of the country and the fact that we have since discovered that this administration is spying illegally and also trying to shift the balance of the courts by pushing Samuel Alito through the Supreme Court (let us not forget Bolton getting into the UN as well as a few other cronies he pushed through, lets also not forget "Katrina"!)

If you can't, then I do plan to send C-Span or one of the National Broadcast Companies a Fax requesting they do.

I do thank you for your efforts to unite the world through peace and understanding. We need a miracle!

Respectfully,

Merrilyn Karrels 
"Frustrated in Florida".

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From graphics artist Mike Duffy:
 
Brazil
have you seen Terry Gilliam's Brazil lately?
There's a scene where these monoliths (shaped eerily like the WTC towers) come blasting out of the ground.
As if the footage of the Towers collapsing was run backward.
amazing imaginative foresight. (I am a big fan of Gilliam)
The entire movie is about terrorism.
Ahead of its time.

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from Roland Croteau, on questions about polling data showing widespread doubts about the 9/11 official story:

Here is a suggestion.., please do your own poll in your area. That will help raise awareness/get the word out and also give you your own credibility because you will now speak from your own experience rather than quoting someone else's numbers that few non-believers want to believe unless it does come from the controlled, mainstream nightly news.

I hope this is helpful.

Best regards,
Roland

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Tanya Hsu sends three jokes, which I've slightly altered--see: http://mujca.com/jokebook.htm

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MUJCA ally The Wisdom Fund publishes a timely article on Iran:

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0116-Iran.html

January 16, 2006
The Wisdom Fund

Iran Has an 'Inalienable Right' to Nuclear Energy

--
The Wisdom Fund
www.twf.org

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Alan Random, itinerant 9/11 activist who helped with the Truth Teach-In at UW-Madison last September 11th, writes:

Yeah, I've still got a few of the deception dollars you gave me. I've been saving them for special occasions. But if they're only a nickel a piece in bulk I might as well order them and put them out just like regular flyers. Remind me again, which site is selling them for that price? I also used up all the stickers you gave me. I've been putting them on the pump stands at gas stations. Where's the cheapest place to get them? I might as well get some more.
Also, I forwarded your 9/11 joke book idea to all my groups. Hopefully you'll get some good submissions.
Sander Hicks for NY governor? Fantastic! Hopefully we can help get his candidacy into the mainstream's radar. Any ideas on how best to accomplish that?
-a.a.r.

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Carla writes:

think your web page might have more people vewing it .......... if you could understand how your web page works
 
 I think the information on your web page is good
 
But it is an EYE SORE and with the way the site is set up it makes me want to NOT LOOK AT IT
 
Please make your site better so that more people will look at it and udnerstand what the truth is...........
Salam

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